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CODYW - [19.06.16 10:54] 
Nevím, zda to někdo znáte, ale zdá se to povedené:
http://www.sefaria.org/?home
SHAMIRA - [29.05.16 10:09] 
KNUKS - [26.05.16 02:47]: Sice dost dobře nevím, co bych na to odpověděla, tak aspoň obecně, aby zde nezůstalo úplné prázdno.:-) Ty kategorie jako Ajin, Ejn sof, Ejn sof or ap. vnímám jako pomocné pojmy, které jsou v rámci lidských pokusů představit si prvotní rozhodnutí Božství vyjevit se určitě funkční, jen to třídění by nás asi nemělo svádět k rozdělování uvnitř Božství, anebo zase k přílišnému oddělování Stvořitele od stvoření. Termíny ani nemohou být přesné, protože nelze přesně uchopit to, co se snaží popsat...
KNUKS - [26.05.16 02:50] 
Teda rovinach je asi blbost rikat, kdyz je to mimo rovinu...hehe
KNUKS - [26.05.16 02:47] 
Co si tu kdo myslite o vicero Ejn sofech? Dle Ramchala existuje vlastnik vule, jeho neomezena vule a nasledne zdanlive omezena vule stvorit svet...vse dle nej pravdepodobne v ramci Ejn sof, or Ejn sof, obcas klido snad i Keter...pripada mi, ze v techto rovinach kabaliste casto na terminy kaslali...
SHAWIR - [09.03.16 22:21] 
Tea, teda, člověk tu rok není a když sem dorazí, rojí se tu náckové :)))

To s tou tříletou je regulérní právní fikce, ale fakt si nejsem jistý, jestli má smysl to tady vysvětlovat. Asi ne :)
EMRUDUE - [09.03.16 01:05] 
TEAM72 - nic nového - http://www.grimoar.cz/og_03.php?
ZDENDA (vulgo Rimmer) - [04.03.16 15:22] 
TEAM72 - [04.03.16 14:44]: Tak samozrejme nektere z nich existuji. Bohuzel ale vytrzeny z kontextu znamenaji neco uplne jineho. Napriklad moznost svatebniho kontraktu s triletou jeste neznamena, ze se hned vezmou (divka musi souhlasit, jakmile dosahne dospelosti) nebo ze, chran Buh, to je nejaka vyzva k sexu s nezletilymi. Obavam se, ze toto neni otazka "vysvetleni", to je proste schvalne podano tak mimo kontext, ze i tato nezavadna veta (v podstate odpovidajici zasnubam v krestanskem svete) je pouzita pro utok na zidy. Kazdopadne diskuze o rasistickych bullshitech muze vesele probihat kdekoli jinde. Viz ucel tohoto fora:

5. קבלה: Fórum bylo vytvořeno v důsledku zvýšeného výskytu kabalistů na grimoáru.cz. Slouží k řešení otázek spjatých se studiem kabaly popř. judaismu, které většinové osazenstvo jednak nezajímají a jednak jim ani za mák nerozumí.
Pravidlo pro kabalu: Žádoucí jsou obstojné znalosti hebrejské kabaly. Kdo nečte hebrejsky, měl by být alespoň vzdělán díly Scholema, Idela či Kaplana — Papus, Halevi, Griese atp. nejsou základnou vhodnou pro vstup do tohoto fóra. (ROOT)


TEAM72 - [04.03.16 14:44] 
No ale niktore texty som nasiel a je to tak, samozrejme potom to vseliako vysvetluju, ale nezmeni to nic, niektore texty existuju.
ZDENDA (vulgo Rimmer) - [04.03.16 14:35] 
TEAM72 - [04.03.16 09:22]: ono by bylo nejlepsi takovym vecem nedelat ani pasivni reklamu tim, ze je nalinkujes. Byl bych radeji, kdybys ten odkaz sam smazal.
ZDENDA (vulgo Rimmer) - [04.03.16 00:09] 
TEAM72 - [03.03.16 16:01]: Vazne? Vazne?! No teda... Kazdopadne abych uchoval diskuzi v neosobni rovine - coz je, ver mi, velmi obtizne - zeptam se, zda jsi se namahal si alespon jeden z tech vyblitku overit, nez ho zacnes copy paste sirit po webu? Asi ne. Tak ja si namatkou vyberu prvni zdroj mne blizsi a udelam taky copy paste. Nez se do cteni prislusne pasaze pustis (a zjistis, ze neobsahuje ani vzdalene tvuj citat), dovoluji si te upozornit, ze sireni rasistickych vyblitku muze byt problematicke i formou otazky. Ona i otazka o tazateli neco vypovida.

Zohar II:4b
48. Rabbi Shimon said: When the Shechinah descended into Egypt, one
beast OF THE FOUR LIVING CREATURES OF THE HOLY CHARIOT, whose name
is Yisrael, descended in the form of that old man MENTIONED IN THE
PREVIOUS VERSE, WHO IS ZEIR ANPIN. And 42 holy attendants descended
with it, MEANING 42 ANGELS, and each one had a holy letter from the
Holy Name OF MEM-BET (42). THESE ANGELS THAT ATTEND THE LIVING
CREATURES WHOSE NAME IS YISRAEL ARE CALLED 'THE CHILDREN OF YISRAEL'
AND ARE DRAWN FROM THE NAME OF MEM-BET (42), WHICH IS THE SECRET OF
THE FIRST THREE SFIROT OF THAT LIVING CREATURES. And they all
descended with Jacob into Egypt. This is what is written: "And these
are the names of the children of Yisrael who came into Egypt with
Jacob" (Shemot 1:1). Rabbi Yitzchak said: This is the meaning of
"the children of Yisrael," followed by "(Et) Jacob," instead of
'with Jacob.'


49. Rabbi Yehuda asked Rabbi Elazar, the son of Rabbi Shimon: You
learned from your father the portion of "And these are the names"
THAT HE EXPLAINED by the supernal secret, AND THAT THE CHILDREN OF
YISRAEL ARE 42 HOLY ANGELS, AS EXPLAINED ABOVE. So what is the
meaning of, "every man came with his household"? ANGELS DO NOT HAVE
A HOUSEHOLD. RABBI ELAZAR said to him: What my father said MEANS the
supernal angels, those who are higher than those who are lower among
them. This is what is written: "every man came with his household."
THE HIGHER ANGEL IS CALLED "MAN" AND THE ONE LOWER THAN HIM IS
CALLED "HIS HOUSEHOLD." Likewise, my father said that all the angels
in the higher level are called "males" and those in the level below
them are called "females," and ARE CALLED "household" because a
female receives from the male AND SHE IS LIKE A HOUSE TO HIM.


50. Rabbi Yitzchak was studying before Rabbi Elazar, the son of
Rabbi Shimon, and said to him: Did the Shechinah REALLY descend into
Egypt with Jacob? He said to him: Did she not? Is it not written:
"And I will descend with you" (Beresheet 46:4)? He said to him: Come
and behold. The Shechinah descended into Egypt with Jacob and six
hundred thousand holy Chariots with Her. This is what is written:
"About six hundred thousand footmen" (Shemot 12:37). And we learned
that six hundred thousand holy Chariots descended with Jacob into
Egypt, and they all ascended from there when the children of Yisrael
left Egypt. This is what is written: "And the children of Yisrael
journeyed from Ramses to Sukot about six hundred thousand footmen"
(Ibid.). It does not say 'six hundred thousand', rather it says
"about six hundred thousand." THIS IMPLIES THAT as the six hundred
thousand BELOW left, so those SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND HOLY CHARIOTS
FROM ABOVE WHO WERE WITH THEM left.


51. Come and behold: This is the secret of the matter. When those
holy Chariots and holy encampments departed, the children of Yisrael
then saw and knew they were being detained FROM LEAVING because of
them, SINCE THEY WERE NOT LEAVING. And all the haste of Yisrael was
for them. This is the meaning of what is written: "And could not
delay" (Shemot 12:39). It should have said, 'And they did not want
to delay', but instead it is written: "And could not." AND THIS WAS
OUT OF NECESSITY BECAUSE OF THE HOST OF ANGELS THAT WERE TARRYING
FOR THEM! And it is actually understood from here that the children
of Yisrael IN THE PHRASE were all the children of Yisrael of the
firmament - NAMELY THE ANGELS. Thus it is written: "The children of
Yisrael who came into Egypt with Jacob" (Shemot 1:1). It does not
state, 'And these are the names of the children of Yisrael who came
into Egypt with him', but: "And these are the names of the children
of Yisrael who came into Egypt with Jacob," MEANING who came to
Egypt in the beginning, REFERRING TO THE ANGELS, AS STATED
PREVIOUSLY. And with whom did they come? With Jacob.


52. Rabbi Yehuda states: We have a situation involving a minor to
major inference. At the time when Jacob was saved from Laban, it is
written: "And Jacob went on his way, and angels of Elohim met him"
(Beresheet 32:2). Then, when he descended into Egypt, the Holy One,
blessed be He, said, "I will go down with you into Egypt" (Beresheet
46:4). And if the Master descends, is it not the rule ALL THE MORE
SO that His attendants will descend with Him? Thus, it is written:
"Who came into Egypt with Jacob" (Shemot 1:1), INSTEAD OF 'WITH
HIM'. Rabbi Ya'akov of the village of Chanan asks in the name of
Rabbi Aba: Who are the children of Yisrael mentioned here? AND HE
ANSWERS: Those who are actually called 'the children of Yisrael',
NAMELY THE TRIBES.

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